On April 30 two members of Communist Students in Manchester attended the Manchester launch of the Left Nationalist No 2 EU - Yes To Democracy campaign. The attendance was a paltry eight, and of those eight three were from the Morning Star’s CPB, one from the Socialist Party of England and Wales (SPEW), one from Permanent Revolution and a comrade from the Green Left. So out of eight in attendance 4 were hostile to the campaign. The meeting began with an unwelcome discussion on the politics of the campaign with myself and other comrades taking the CPB to task for backing immigration controls, British jobs for British workers and little Britain politics dressed up in trade union clothes. The comrade from SPEW seemed genuinely shocked when Dave Hawkins from the CPB proclaimed that immigration controls are a great British tradition and that British workers should be protected from immigrants coming over here and taking their jobs. It took but a second for the real politics of the campaign to come out. The CPB members present seemed stupidly unaware that muttering such sentiments did nothing to help the campaign and only encouraged and angered the small but hostile audience. For over 45 minutes they were subjected to ridicule and the proper communist approach to Europe. To the credit of the SPEW member he did not engage in any abusive or arrogant remarks like the CPB members did, he listened and discussed calmly taking on the points that many comrades had raised but still saw that the positives outweighed the negatives in the campaign. It was a peculiar atmosphere considering CPB bureaucrats in Unison are witch hunting socialist trade unionists who are members of the SPEW.Further questions where raised about the establishment of the campaign and why it was done behind the backs of not just the RMT but the entire movement. There was no democratic process or discussion within or outside the RMT. Unlike the PR member and CPB members everyone else thought that this was an important issue. The claim that the RMT are backing the electoral bloc when the RMT as a union has not discussed it or voted on it has no basis in reality.
As the meeting went on CPB members became more and more embarrassed with Hawkins spending a good five minutes with his head in his hands. Hopefully he had just realised that Stalinism and its half witted adherents will face opposition whenever they climb out of the safety of the trade union bureaucracy. Tempers did begin to fray and instead of discussing with the female comrade from the Green Left, Hawkins gave a sharp one liner that ended in “love”, to which she replied “comrade would have been fine”. So not only is the CPB happily promoting left nationalism, it’s members are also happy to be derogatory towards female comrades who are critical. Sexism has always been apart of this movement, and it is no surprise an old Stalinist is intent on perpetuating it.
The meeting was brought to an abrupt end as the CPB decided they would organise the campaign via email. They quickly ran out of the building, even forgetting to pay for the room. It was one of the most farcical launch meetings I have ever been too.
Stalinists beware, internationalists are everywhere!
13 comments:
Sounds like possibly the worst campaign launch in the history of British politics.
It's not really surprising though as the kindest thing to be said about No2EU is that it is poorly planned and badly organised with the decision to stand only coming far too late in the day.
The decision to exclude those on the left including the CPGB, AWL and SWP is just shocking however also gives an underlying reason away. With the SWP involved at any level, control of No2EU would slip out of the hands of the CPB. Was this brought up at the meeting? I would like to hear a response to this.
There are too many problems with No2EU that have been highlighted elsewhere and dealt with much better than I could do.
Were there many candidates there? I am still shocked at the involvement of the SP in this. After their great intervention at Lindsey they have sunk the depths here I'm afraid. I imagine the SPEW comrade was wanting the ground to swallow him up!
HILARIOUS! In a bad way, obviously
Why the Citizen Smith pic though? He was much more serious about revolution...
I think that the SP must be attempting all sorts of somersault training programs for when this finally dies a death. From Lindsey-No2 EU-?? a new anti immigrant left nationalist 'mass party'?? Let us hope the socialists inside the SP force a radical change of course, and soon.
Not very likely WW fan. The conversations with SP comrades around this took place after it was decided to support. A bit too late then methinks. A female comrade who is in the party isn't overly happy but she reckons there aren't the democratic structures to deal with it and although she thinks there may be other dissenters, has no way of finding out.
No2EU is truely shocking though. What happened to the grand launch of candidates that was supposed to happen yesterday? Not heard a word. And I've looked on the website and the blogs. Nothing!
I wouldn't be worrying too badly about the SP - they have a history of 'piggybacking' on broader organisations without really giving too much of themselves (the socialist alliance springs to mind), and it's clear that there is a certain embarassed silence from that direction on the reactionary nature of the no2eu programme (eg, comrades being told to quote Crow rather than the programme - comes to something when the union bureaucrat is to the left of the "Communist" party!)
What a fucking carry on.
Hi comrades
does indeed sound like a strange meeting!
would just like to make a couple of comments.
firstly jim you say we 'piggybacked' on the socialist alliance. thats not really true is it? we were a founding organisation of the Socialist Alliance. Long before other people decided they wanted to get involved. Funny sort of piggy backing!
regarding the no2eu - doing the rounds on the internet appears to be the story that this wasn't discussed, that there is a lot of disquiet etc. Thats just not the case. Personally speaking Im from Coventry, and we discussed this at 3 meetings before our national congress, where there was a session on this and the party voted to get involved, so there has been a full a debate as possible given the time constraints. I would also refer comrades back to the time of the Socialist Alliance, where the WW and others on the left were convinced that we would split if we left - this didn't happen, because, there was general agreement after discussion and debate about the way forward!
There certainly are the democratic structures in the party - the first point of call is the branch, conferences, the possibility of producing documents etc
anyway, you can read a detailed position of the SP in the latest issue of Socialism Today, which puts things across pretty well
cheers comrades
Paul H
Coventry
Paul,
You forgot about the nationalism, immigration controls and Stalinism in this campaign. Care to comment on that?
If it was discussed in your branch then that is good, it is a rather different story we are hearing from comrades up and down the country. Where it has been discussed the problems of this campaign have been overlooked or purposely ignored by your leadership and apparatus.
It has not been discussed across the movement and it has definitely not been discussed in the RMT except by the Left bureaucrats at the top. Why was the biggest communist group in the country along with ourselves and other "ultra left" organisations immediately excluded. This was a stitch up behind the backs of the workers movement. No getting around it.
All of the SPEW material thus far has ignored the problems.
Sterling defence Paul, but you don't take up any of the substantial points made by Chris really.
And it's not the story we are getting from comrades who are unhappy with No2EU. The discussions happened after the SP leadership had agreed to support it seems. And why, if they are involved, did they not try and influence the programme a little more.
After the excellent intervention in Lindsey, to be involved in this is a bit of backwards step.
Chris - are you aware that someone is posting as you again over on SU
The idea that No2 EU is a departure from the 'sterling efforts' at Lindsey is absurd. The latter flows from the former. Lets also stop this nonsense concerning the campaign being discussed in branches prior to conference. The vast majority of branches had no discussions. The branch delegates were not elected on the basis of the No2 EU issue.
Structures for change? Delegates to conference chosen by full timers so as to 'give experience to new comrades', i.e. ensure they are quickly assimilated into the SP approach of bureaucratic centrism.
I'm not sure that they do logically flow from each other. The intervention of the SP in the Lindsey dispute helped steer it away from the kind of nationalism that can be found in No2EU. It also won a victory of sorts for the workers.
Chris - what happened to the article on the Japanese Communist Party that was here this morning? I was looking forward to reading it properly!stio
I removed the JCP article. Can be found here: http://brennanism.blogspot.com/
The LOR strike stole 50% jobs of international workers! In waht universe is this a victory for workers generally?
As far as I am aware no jobs were 'stolen'. The Italian workers remained employed by IREM and weren't sacked and weren't used to undermine the national agreement. If you have information that shows otherwise then I stand corrected.
Cheers for the JCP link, will check it out.
The info stating otherwise is the agreement signed by the strike committee, led by Keith Gibson, SPer and IREM bosses. The agreement, which the Unite union have not released but which has been quoted in the media, gives 50% jobs to Brit workers-the aim of the strike from beginning to end. The Italian workers allegedly transferred according to the SP. Transferred to where? to the 18% unemployment in Italy??
This issue is a chimera. The reality of the situation should have been a call of jobs for all, share out the work type struggles. The SP failed critically in that regard. They formed an unholy alliance with craft workers, now codified in No2 EU.
The Unite union met IREM several weeks prior to the strike and agreed the workers would be on the union rate. The argument this was about undercutting is therefore false-there was no basis to strike-other than to oppose the general bosses offensive. Sadly this was not the case in this strike. The Brit workers had 3mths of redundancy to strike against there actual boss, Shaw's contractor, but refused any action until it became foreign trade union paid workers were being employed on a specialized contract. The BNPers leading the strike then made up a huge amount of shite about the race to the bottom'. The SP jumped on board. Fuck internationalism- we, the SP can make some real gains here and raise our profile. Happily this tied in well with the nationalism of the CPB dominated 'left' in the RMT. No2 is the result- aplatgform opposing immigration; supporting good British bosses and appealing to people on patriotic grounds. The left union demands are undermined by them having no actual basis. Britain has the most repressive union laws in the Western world thanks to Thatcher, Blair and Brow. The ECJ are miles behind the British state. The logic of this campaign, if it has one would be better calling for the abolition of Britain.
The JCP article is only a rough draft really. I am expanding and changing.
cheers
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